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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.17 10:29:00 -
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I see that the Republic's proudest supporters continue to uphold the Minmatar traditions of bloodthirsty violence and unwarranted brutality.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.17 11:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Marus Sulla
Originally by: Rodj Blake
I see that the Republic's proudest supporters continue to uphold the Minmatar traditions of bloodthirsty violence and unwarranted brutality.
Amen.
Testify brother.
Oh Wait. Unwarranted?
"The Minmatars are the most numerous of all the races in the world of EVE, but their vast numbers are divided into many factions. While the Minmatar Republic is the official state, only a quarter of all Minmatars are part of it. The largest proportion, almost a third, are enslaved within the huge Amarr Empire."
Does that really warrant so much violence when the Empire has a noble history of eventually releasing slaves? Just look at the fate of the Udorians and the Ni-Kunni. Once they were slaves but now they have been elevated to a more civilised status than their origins would have allowed them. And it doesn't end there! Just a year or two back, many Minmatar slaves were peacefully emancipated.
Violence won't advance the agenda of those who dislike slavery, but peaceful dialogue might. However, the natural state of Minmatars is one of unrestrained anger. They just can't help themselves when it comes to violence. That's one reason why they need our help.
It's true that a third of Minmatars are still being enlightened by Amarrians, but to all you anti-slavery types I repeat the words of an ancient philosopher: two out of three ain't bad.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.17 12:18:00 -
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Your inability to even understand that a peaceful solution might exist simply proves my point.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.17 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 17/02/2011 12:33:23
Originally by: Marus Sulla
As solution presupposes a problem.
You would agree then Rodj that the continuing existence of slavery is, in fact, a problem?
It certainly seems to be a problem for you, but I suspect that even if there was no slavery a lot of Minmatars would come up with some other excuse for violence.
So ultimately, the problem is the violent nature of unenlightened Minmatars.
Slavery is one solution to that problem, but others may exist.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.17 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Marus Sulla
Ahhhh if only we were obedient, little Minmatar. How unfortunate for us we must be to be so brutish...and free.
You are a slave yourself Rodj, if only you could see it.
We are all slaves. It's just that I'm a slave to God's righteousness rather than to emotion.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.17 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sinjin Mokk
I believe Andreus was going to say that by working with the Empire, we can all work towards a galaxy filled with peace and prosperity.
The Republic patterns itself after a democratic model where the majority rules. Yet when a majority of their people accept the leadership of the Empire, well, thatÆs not good enough for the Elders.
Perhaps there is a hidden wisdom in Admiral BlakeÆs words? Instead of subjugation, should the Empire (after removing the rot that calls itself Elders) seek reunification?
Khanid maintains an autonomous existence, yet we are a part of the greater whole of the Empire. Could Minmatar eventually follow the same path?
Could that be a path to peaceful co-existence?
Ohàand get that girl a sweater or something. Those stations can get cold.
The Empire was more than happy for the Ammatar Mandate to have autonomy, so there's no reason why a similar deal couldn't be brokered with the Republic.
There would of course have to be certain safeguards put in place to stop thme betraying the Empire though. I'm sure that an Amarrian viceroy would be a less tyrannical ruler than Shakor.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.17 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 17/02/2011 17:13:42
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
The major contributions the Empire has made to the cluster are:
- One successful genocide
- Several attempted genocides
- The destruction of a peaceful, technologically advanced society
- The Blood Raider Covenant
- Sansha's Nation
- Vastly increased Jovian xenophobia
Your track record is awful.
As are your lies.
Really now Andreus, the Empire has consistently opposed both the Blood Raiders and the Sansha, and you know it.
And I suspect that you're deliberately confusing genocide with police actions and compulsory cultural realignments.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.18 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ava Starfire
No, as a matter of fact, I am quite sure "genocide" is precisely the right word.
"Compulsory cultural realignments..." really?
I am beginning to rethink my stance on the Amarr people as a whole...maybe I do hate all of you.
What we do is generally a lot more humane than some of the indignities heaped upon Minmatars by their own kind as a result of the barbaric Voluval.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.18 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Originally by: Rodj Blake
I see that the Republic's proudest supporters continue to uphold the Minmatar traditions of bloodthirsty violence and unwarranted brutality.
Dear Captain Blake:
As it seems you have not noticed, our nations are in a war. Hope this helps, have a nice day.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Whilst you may revel in the destruction caused by your kind, I prefer to consider loss of life to be a dreadful (even if neccessary) waste no matter who it is.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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